Updated Save the Date: California Cup
The California Cup is scheduled for Saturday, April 14 to Sunday, April 15, 2012.
The tournament will be held at Bishop O’Dowd High School in Oakland, California.
Sixteen teams will be in competition. Teams with 19+ POI points are fully qualified for the cup. Teams with less than 19 points may submit an at-large bid application.
Please Note: This year POI points from state qualifiers and later invitationals such as SCU2 will be factored into the rankings before California Cup decisions are made. Because of this additional consideration, the number of points needed to autoqual for the California Cup has been raised from 16 to 19.
Information on the application process for both fully qualified teams and prospective at-large teams will be forthcoming.
22 Comments to Updated Save the Date: California Cup
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Same date as SCU2?
Is there another date?
March 31 happens to be the same day as the Coast Forensic League National qualifier for Congress. Considering the fact that Parli is not (yet!) a national event, for many debaters, Congress is our only shot at nationals. It gives CFL kids a hard decision; it’s disappointing to have to choose between two things that are very important to us.
We very much hope that these dates are reconsidered; perhaps a date closer to the CHSSSA state tournament would be beneficial for all of us (Apr 14/15 or 22/23?). Unfortunately, as these dates stand, we at Los Gatos at least, are sad to say we would be unable to attend as we only have one coach to take us to tournaments, and she will be at the national congress qualifier that day.
-Christina Gilbert & Adam Silverman
The Cup has been rescheduled for April 14 – 15, 2012. Hopefully this will put the Cup in the clear.
Perfect! Adam and I will be there!
If that is the case, could the rolling application process be extended to March 12 or 13? (I assume it’s rolling?)
There are several state qualifying tournaments that could add more “diversity” to the point details.
Thanks.
Would a Cup reschedule for the April 21-22 weekend be possible?
Saratoga has a large school event all day on April 14–and an April 21-22 schedule is free of other tournament conflicts.
Additionally, as Christina mentioned earlier, this would be closer to the CHSSA state tournament and would be very beneficial for multiple reasons. Furthermore, having the tournament after spring break would allow the debaters to practice and brush up, as they have busy school schedules. This would allow for a better Cal Cup, as the competitors would be in even better shape than before, and for better results for those who attend the state tournament as well.
We would extremely appreciate it if this final date is considered.
Thanks,
Shauray Agrawal & Justin Chiang
Incidentally, would anyone be averse to the idea of an April 7th Parli/PoFo invitational at Prospect High School? It could be a warmup for CaliCup and State Finals, as well as a consolation for the teams that don’t make CaliCup, States, or Nationals. What’s the consensus?
The only issue I see is an overcrowded April debate calendar.
Post here or let me know at prospectdebate@gmail.com .
Thanks!
Rohan
A prospect invitational sounds really nice. I, for one, would really appreciate the chance for more practice.
Bump for Shauray’s proposal above.
I also think an April 21-22 date would be better. Like he said, it is the week before the state tournament which would help us all.
Mr. Morris mentioned on the at-large big post that “…our goal is to maximize the amount of debate (because we want CalCuppers to win State the week thereafter).”
Moving it to the week after would, indeed, give us more practice for the state tournament by having the CalCup the preceding weekend, like Mr. Morris said.
I’m for an April 21-22 schedule. Really hope it’s considered.
I’d like that! Los Gatos (and many other CFL teams, I’m sure) can’t go to SCU2 because of N. Quals congress so I’d love to get rounds in the weekend before cali cup!
@ Rohan: A prospect invitational sounds fun, especially since some of us didn’t get an opportunity to go to your first one! I would definitely be up for it.
@ Shauray: That is actually a good idea. I second that, because I know that a lot of neighboring schools hold school-wide events that weekend as well, so it may be difficult for some debaters to make it to CalCup that weekend.
FYI Oregon state tourney is April 19-21
Are there any any Oregon teams that would qualify/attend Cali Cup this year? I can’t seem to find one on the rankings.
But I’m for the April 21 move as well. More convenient for us, and it’s also better practice for states. Hope this happens!
Thanks,
Sam
I did indeed say that maximizing quality debate experience in preparation for state is a good idea. However, in this case, I still just feel that having it back to back puts a lot of strain on debaters (especially those outside the Bay Area, who would have to do long drives or flights on consecutive weekends). A recovery week in between would be good. This is just my opinion and does not necessarily reflect the view of POI as a whole.
I believe Bishop O’Dowd is going to the UO tournament. Hopefully they can use that opportunity to invite Oregon teams
Can the application deadline be extended to mid March so State QUALS POI points may be added in?
The currently scheduled date of the Cup is on the same day as Windsor’s Prom, so we would prefer the date change
Perm it, you’re already wearing the suit.
Sorry Jason, but because of space availability issues, the desire not to conflict with SCU 2, and not wanting to make SoCal teams make two trips north on two consecutive weekends, April 14 – 15 is going to be the date of the tournament. I agree with Mr. Morris. Debate in a tux and be parli’s answer to James Bond.
OK, thank you for considering though! Tux it is
Because the Cal Cup is occurring later in the year, points from qualifiers may be factored in. However, this will also result in Cal Cup autoqual points being raised from 16 to possibly 18.
Will this year’s Cal Cup participants need to make hotel reservations, or will they be staying with Bishop O’Dowd students like last year?