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16 Mar 2010

CHSSA Parliamentary Debate State Championship Qualifiers

Area 1
GGSA

Lowell QA (Brian Qiu & Jason Alafgani)
Bishop O’Dowd AD (Carey Appeldorn & Kate Drew)
Bentley MB (Annie McKenna & Logan Brog)
Windsor FJ (Jason Fauss & Jonathan Jeffrey)

CFL

Leland OS (Robert Ott & Michael Song)
Bellarmine PH (Anthony Paranzino & Ali Hazrati)
Los Gatos VE (Robert Van Unen & Kate Epstein)
Lynbrook MN (Ritik Malhotra & Tejas Navaratna)

Area 2
SoValley

Sanger VP (Gurleen Virk & Dylan Picazo)
Independence VL (Ankit Vyas & David Lauzon)
Centennial MW (Brian Murphy & Kelsey White)
Stockdale RM (Alyssa Romanini & Rheanna Morones)

Sacto

Miraloma AL (Vrinda Agarwal & Justin Lin)
Granite Bay ON (Matt O’Brien & Gary Nielsen)

YFL

St. Mary’s GM (Matt Gordon & Aubrey Miller)
Lodi BG (Jacob Baumbach & Josh Gums)

Area 3
TCFL

Cleveland LM (Iain Lampert & Molly Moran)
Campbell Hall SW (Ryan Samii & Matt Walla)
Chaminade RC (Priya Rajan & Neeraj Chandra)

SCDL

San Marino LP (Charles Lin & Hank Pin)
San Marino WJ (Oscar Wang & Sonia Jain)
Gabrielino BS (Matt Basa & ? Singleton)

WBFL

Peninsula TN (Jocelyn Tang & Alex Nguyen)
Windward OK (Griffin Owens & Grant Klein)

Area 4
SDIVSL

Carlsbad GM (Sam Gardner & Natasha Maldi)
La Costa Canyon CZ (Brian Castelloe & Reza Zammarodian)
Carlsbad FL (Stefan Fan & Jerry Luo)

CBSR

Claremont MW (Daniel Musa & Patrick Wilkie)
La Quinta BR (Brittany Boiko & Armando Robles)
Carter DJ (Matthew Delgado & Matthew Jobe)

OCSL

El Modena DK (Austin Doan & Bobby Konoske)
Esperenza YK (Lynn Yu & Sharon Kong)

32 Comments to CHSSA Parliamentary Debate State Championship Qualifiers

  • Sam Gardner says:

    Let the record show that if we lose to La Quinta I will cry the tears of a 10 year old girl.

  • Daniel Musa says:

    Ahahaha. I agree Sam.

  • Iain Lampert says:

    Let the record show that Cleveland is registered now, so, so there.

  • Armando Robles says:

    Let the record show, tears will be shed.

  • Aditya says:

    NIU over KU. No doubt.

  • Content User says:

    NIU over KU, I’ve debate both, I’d probably say the La Quinta is clearly better than Gardner, its a shame they haven’t been to as many tournaments this year, they would have probably been ranked a lot higher. I would shed tears if La Quinta didn’t beat Carlsbad.

  • Armando Robles says:

    At the end of the day though, SoCal has to represent for the hood and the homies and all that good stuff.

  • Sam Gardner says:

    I’m pretty sure content user is just trying to stir up trouble :)

  • Content User says:

    When there’s trouble you know who to call!

  • Blackhawk says:

    Let it be known that content user is not Armando’s coach, that would be me. I’d love to know who’s defending us though. However, I do think CU brings up a good point: we are new to this website and I am a bit unclear as to how the scoring works. It DOES seem as though we are at a disadvantage by not BEING ABLE to attend more invitationals. Is this taken into account?

    Also, I agree with Armando, let’s all play nice, with each other anyway. We need to go up there and represent the BETTER half of the state. :)

  • Jason says:

    Tournament points are. Capped at 4. Socal teams have at least 4 tournies accesible to them. And the competition is significantly worse in socal so ur actually at an advantage but u don’t take advantage of it. I feel like we all know who actually is the better half of cali. Bay life woot woot

  • Blackhawk says:

    There may be tournies available, but no moola at our schoola. And what does that mean, competition is worse? Sam, Daniel, how do you feel about that???

    You’re right, we do know. HOOOOLLLLAAAA!

    Thank you, Jason, for your quick response and indulging all this silliness.

  • Content User says:

    Jason is right, norcal > socal. It’s always been that way, it always will be that way. Let’s see how it turns out at the CA cup. But it’s pretty clear that norcal will win that too, and state probably.

  • POI says:

    We haven’t had time to add in squals points yet, but, counting those, Robles/Boiko have 15.65 points – this should put them somewhere in the top 20.

    We don’t cap at 4 tourneys, not sure where Jason got that. Teams get diminishing marginal returns from attending more tournaments. Best tournament gives them 100% of points, second best is 95%, then 65%, 30%, 10% and 0% for sixth best and further.
    For example, Robles/Boiko have 9 points from squals, 7 from Claremont, so (9*1) + (7*0.95) = 15.65

    This system partially solves the disadvantage to schools that travel less. It is not perfect, which is why the California Cup leaves some space for at-large applicants (i.e. Lampert/Hall got in on an at-large, since they only attended one tournament this year and were thus somewhat disadvantaged by the points system). Robles/Boiko would have probably received an at-large too had they applied.

    Norcal is vastly superior to Socal, which is why Schwarzenegger moved from Hollywood to Sacramento, but that is not reflected in the ranking system.

  • Iain Lampert says:

    Glad to be used in an example.

  • Jason says:

    My bad its capped at 5. I thought it went 100,95,65,30.(thusly capped at 4)

  • Benjamin Morris says:

    Me and Brian Qiu appear to be the only ones who the cap affects…

  • Sam Gardner says:

    I’d totally admit that there are a lot more really good teams in the north than there are in the south. I’m also pretty sure that the north will dominate the cal cup this year. I’m just looking at the cup and state as a learning experience for next year, but I’m pretty sure every team at the cup would be able to dominate the “average” competition from any league north or south.

  • Sam Gardner says:

    (as they have done empirically during squals)

  • Blackhawk says:

    My problem though, as a coach who switched to Parli because I HATE POLICY is that you Norcal teams debate parli like poilicy. Parli is supposed to be public debate that any observer can watch and understand and judge. When you all use the policy terms like solvency, inherency, etc. it defeats the purpose of true debate which is to be judged on your rhetorical skills, not all the fancy vocabulary and fake memorized facts you throw in. Then it’s just policy without cards. That’s been my biggest issue and killed me at State last year. However, I’ve learned how to coach my kids for that kind of debate by competing more and more against northern teams, so thank you for that training, teams of the lesser California. :)

  • Jerry Luo says:

    Blackhawk, go do PF.

  • CrimsonChin says:

    policy without cards is an oxymoron.

    and LOL at a parli debater telling someone to do another debate event.

  • Robert Van Unen says:

    With all respect due to an individual that refers to herself as the “CrimsonChin”, if parli is so second rate, why is it so clearly worth your time?

  • Blackhawk says:

    Wow Jerry. Rude. I guess your coach, or parents, never taught you to be polite to your elders. Let’s hope I don’t see you when I’m judging this weekend.

    I am, of course, kidding, but there’s a lesson to be learned there.

    And, I’d say I’m doing pretty well at Parli since my team has been in the top three of my league for the last three years, after only 5 years of doing it.

    Good luck to all this weekend! And remember that manners count for speaker points. :)

  • Benjamin Morris says:

    And speaker points count for…

  • Blackhawk says:

    I’ve been in that tab room many a time. Speaks can make a huge difference if you’re talking about evenly matched teams with identical records; I’ve seen it decide finalists.

  • Erik Camacho says:

    LOL

  • Patrick says:

    I dont know about there being a better half of the state, especially since there is a difference between how your average norcal team and your average socal team approach parli.

    Some norcal teams are horrible, some are excellent. The same can be said of socal teams.

  • Blackhawk says:

    When I was talking about the “better half” of the state, I meant the actual state, not the debaters. We’ve got the beaches, Disneyland, better baseball, we sent you the governator…

    Of course, we all have to go to Bakersfield this weekend, and that’s no good for anyone. Can’t we give them to Nevada?

    Just friendly banter.

  • Iain Lampert says:

    Let’s keep the stream of conversation flowing!

    Qualifiers…who are you looking forward to hitting at state?

  • Content User says:

    Armando Robles, Sam Gardner, Iain Lampert, Nick Hall, Natasha Maldi, Brittany Boiko, Dan Musa, Patrick Wilkes, Mathew Carter, and Mathew Jobe could DESTROY Jason, any day. So Jason, have fun with your “Humboldt County Killa Kush” and “Bay Slang” Mr. Cool guy, while they own you this weekend.

    Yadadamean?

  • Content User says:

    As for winners:

    I see Lodi and Cleveland making finals

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